How the IRS sees homeschool co-ops (podcast)

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In this episode of the Dollars and Sense Show podcast, host Carol Topp continues her topic “Who’s Afraid of the IRS?” and discusses how the IRS sees homeschool co-ops and 501(c)(3) tax exempt status.

Listen to the podcast

Listen to the first part of this presentation where Carol discussed homeschool support groups and IRS 501(c)(7) tax exempt status as a Social Club.

Get a copy of the handout.

Carol also mentioned the article “Do You Know About IRS Required Filings for Homeschool Organizations?” Get it here.

The IRS and Your Homeschool Organization

Carol’s book, The IRS and Your Homeschool Organization, is available here.

 

How can the IRS revoke my tax exempt status when I never applied for it?

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Carol,
About 15 years ago a couple of moms started a homeschool summer sports group. About 8 years ago, two leaders opened a bank account. The bank set them up with a “Club” account and secured a federal ID number (EIN) for the club. We never applied to the IRS for anything. We never filed any annual reports (the Form 990-N).

Now from reading your website and our emails, it sounds like our tax exempt status was revoked and we need to get it back.

How can something we never had (501c7 Social Club status) be revoked? 

Your help in clarifying this is appreciated, so we know how to move forward.

Lisa

 

Lisa,

I know this is confusing.

Your sports group is a recreational club that fits the IRS definition of 501(c)(7) social club.

501(c)(7) Social Clubs can “self declare” their tax exempt status without officially applying. Technically, you “self-declared” your tax exempt status when you said you “never applied to the IRS for anything.”

Since 2007, the IRS has required all tax exempt organizations, even those that self-declared their tax exempt status, to file the annual Form 990N.  Read more here: http://homeschoolcpa.com/irs-form-990n-faq/

Your organization failed to file the 990-N for three years the and IRS has revoked your “self declared” tax exempt status.

Now you need to file the paperwork (Form 1024) to get back your tax exempt status that you didn’t need to apply for in the first place!

Crazy? YES!
Frustrating? YES!

A lot of small organizations have learned that their tax exempt status had been revoked and they didn’t even know about it!

I don’t think the IRS thought this through. I wish they had not revoked the status of 501(c)(7)s, but they did. I also wish they would allow a simple phone call to get reinstated instead of filing the paperwork and paying the IRS $400 fee.

Here’s the IRS webpage explaining how to get your tax exempt status reinstated. They offer 4 methods.

How to Have Your Tax Exempt Status Reinstated

If you find reading the IRS webpage a bit confusing, feel free to contact me and we can set up a personal consultation by phone to discuss your options.

Carol Topp, CPA

 

Who’s Afraid of the IRS? (podcast)

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Are you afraid of the IRS? Should you be?

How does the IRS see homeschool organizations?

In the latest episode of the Dollars and Sense podcast, host Carol Topp discusses how the IRS sees homeschool organizations. Carol discusses homeschool support groups and IRS 501(c)(7) tax exempt status as a Social Club.

Listen to the podcast here

Get a copy of the handout Who’s Afraid of the IRS Handout

Carol mentioned the article “Do You Know About IRS Required Filings for Homeschool Organizations?” Get it here.

The IRS and Your Homeschool Organization

Carol’s book, The IRS and Your Homeschool Organization, is available here.

Did your homeschool group lose its tax status? (podcast)

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Your homeschool group may have lost its tax exempt status and not even know it! I explain this problem in an episode of the Dollars and Sense Show podcast.

Listen to the podcast here

In 2006, the IRS made filing an annual report (Form 990/990-EZ, 990-N) mandatory for nonprofit organizations. Nonprofits that failed to file the Form 990 for three consecutive years, had their tax exempt status automatically revoked.

In the podcast, I discuss how to know if your group’s tax exempt status was revoked and how to get it back.

Episode #36 Required IRS Reports for Homeschool Groups explains the Form 990.

My book The IRS and Your Homeschool Organization is a helpful resource for homeschool organizations considering the benefits of tax exempt status. Available here.

If you would benefit from a personal phone consultation, I’d would be happy to help your homeschool organizations. Contact Carol.

Carol Topp, CPA

IRS reports your homeschool group needs to file every year

IRS reports for homeschool groups

Your homeschool group should be filing some reports every year with the IRS. Did you know that?

Carol Topp, the HomeschoolCPA, explains what forms homeschool groups should be filing with the IRS in this episode of the Dollars and Sense Show podcast.

Listen to the podcast here

In the podcast, Carol answers common questions from homeschool leaders such as:

  • We were told if our income is under $25,000 a year, we don’t have to file anything with the IRS. Is that true?
  • What changed? We never had to file anything with the IRS before!
  • But we’re not a 501c3 organizations (or don’t want to be), so why do we need to file anything with the IRS?
  • We don’t like government intervention. Why do we need to have anything to do with the IRS?
  • Our homeschool group doesn’t make any profit, so why do we have to file a tax return?
  • We’ve never filed anything with the IRS? We didn’t know we had to! Now what? Will be owe back taxes?

Here’s a helpful FAQ page explaining the IRS Form 990-N.

How to get added to the IRS database to file the Form 990-N.

If all this is new to you, don’t panic!

We can arrange a phone consultation with your homeschool leaders. Together we can sort out what needs to be done.

Contact me here.

Carol Topp, CPA

 

Congratulations! Another homeschool group receives tax exempt status

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Congratulations to Christian Homeschool Organization Interact Connect Encourage (CHOICE) in South Carolina on recently receiving 501(c)(3) tax exempt status with the IRS.

I was happy to help this homeschool organization use the new IRS short Form 1023-EZ. They received their tax exempt letter in 3 weeks.

CHOICE’s leader wrote:

Thank you so much for all of your help.  We have you in our budget now, so that we can contact you with questions whenever we need answers.

I am a little nervous about knowing what forms need to be sent where and when.

If you’re uncertain about what your organization needs to file with the IRS and your state, please contact me. I can help you sort it all out.

Tax exempt status is not automatic! Do you know what forms your homeschool organization should be filing with the IRS?

My (recently updated) book The IRS and Your Homeschool Organization could help you understand when and how to become tax exempt.

Price: $9.95 paperback $3.99 ebook

Carol Topp, CPA

Can our homeschool nonprofit get a new EIN to start filing the Form 990-N?

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Carol,

What would happen if I were to call the IRS, have them enable my Employer Identification Number (EIN) to file a 990-N (we’re under $5k/year in gross receipts), and then file a 990-N at the end of the year? Perhaps they would flag my e-postcard since we have never filed one, but the EIN has existed for many years. Can my organization apply for a new EIN?

Will

 

Will,

Since your organization has existed for many years, but has not filed any annual information returns (990/990EZ, 990-N), the IRS will look back and revoke your tax exempt status. You will need to apply for tax exempt status.

Your current organization could dissolve and some of your leaders could form a new organization with a new name and new EIN. But the former head of the IRS Exempt Organizations, Lois Lerner, has said,

“I don’t know if it’s purposeful, but I do know that it’s important for people to understand getting a new EIN is not the answer. It’s like getting a Social Security number, they’re very easy to get. You can get one, we’ll enter it in our system but when we actually start looking and you’ve got two EINs, and one of them is revoked, unless you came back in, the other is not going to be legitimate in terms of your status. So keep that in mind.”

Source: http://waysandmeans.house.gov/uploadedfiles/boustany_johnson_ssns_72313.pdf page 9

So, getting a new EIN does not satisfy the IRS. You should probably look into getting your tax exempt status reinstated. I can help with that. More information here.

Carol Topp, CPA

 

IRS approves 501c3 status for homeschool group in 2 weeks!

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The IRS is certainly speeding up the process to get 501(c)(3) status for small, qualified organizations!

Congratulations to Heritage Home Scholars in Tennessee  on receiving  501(c)(3) tax exempt status with the IRS! They received the coveted IRS determination letter granting them 501(c)(3) tax exempt status in less than two weeks from applying!

I was happy to help them receive 501(c)(3) tax exempt status for the IRS. Learn more here about how I can help your homeschool organization.

 

Do you know the pros and cons of 501(c) tax exempt status? Do you know what tax exempt status could mean for your homeschool group?

My (recently updated) book The IRS and Your Homeschool Organization could help your group as well.

Price: $9.95 paperback   $3.99 ebook

 

 

Carol Topp, CPA

IRS grants 501c3 status to two homeschool co-ops

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Congratulations to SEEK in Indiana and Home Educators TREK in Illinois on receiving  501(c)(3) tax exempt status with the IRS!

I was happy to help both these organizations receive 501(c)(3) tax exempt status for the IRS.

Do you know the pros and cons of 501(c) tax exempt status? Do you know what tax exempt status could mean for your homeschool group?

My (recently updated) book The IRS and Your Homeschool Organization could help your group as well.

Price: $9.95 paperback   $3.99 ebook

 

 

Carol Topp, CPA

Tax Exempt Status for Homeschool Co-ops (video)

I presented as workshop called “Homeschool Co-ops Are Like Marriage: Know What You’re Getting Into” at the Midwest Homeschool Convention in Cincinnati this year.

This is Part 7 of 7 is titled “Tax Exempt Status for Homeschool Co-ops.”

I explain:

  • What tax exempt is and how to get it for your homeschool co-op!
  • Required IRS reports that every homeschool organization needs to file.
  • What to do if your group has not filed the required IRS forms.
  • Homeschool co-ops being under a church.

 

 

In the video I mentioned my books
Homeschool Co-ops: How to Start Them, Run Them and Not Burn Out.
The IRS and Your Homeschool Organization
Money Management in a Homeschool Organization

Here’s a handout for the presentation.

More clips from this presentation can be found at HomeschoolCPA’s YouTube Channel.

 

Carol Topp, CPA